very well. the latino population not just in california but throughout the southwest, throughout the midwest and the rest of the country, the reality is that as a party republicans are doomed, if they don't find a way to court hispanics in a way to deal with issues that hispanics care about, the full range of things. what do republicans do? what does romney do? what does the party do? you've been in this situation. >> well, one of the great senators, senator mccain, has for years been a strong believer in immigration reform. he has worked to get a reach across the aisle with kennedy. they both had a really great plan. and i think the plan should be reasserted, because it doesn't make any sense that for the last 10 years, maybe before i even became governor, they have talked about immigration reform. and every single time they get into it they say, well, we have an election coming up. well, hello? i mean, the history of america that every two years there's an election. you know, every four years there's a presidential election. so there's nothing new. you've got to get the people'